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Outrage Over Marine's Puppy Video

Fri Mar 7, 2008 3:42 PM EST
us-news, youtube, marine, puppy, sec-712
By Anna_K4
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Recently a video clip on Youtube.com showing what appears to be a Marine dressed in full battle uniform throwing a puppy off the cliff. The puppy left a yelping sound as it flipped through the air. There have been numerous debate about the authenticity of this video by thousand of viewers on the internet. Some believe the puppy had already been dead or it's just a stuffed animal. The yelping sound is too loud to be read and that it was probably created by the marine who was holding the camera. Even though there is no concrete evidence whether the video is real or fake and whether the puppy is dead or alive at that time, the marine's action has sets off national outcry.

I am by no mean condemning nor justifying the marine's action. What amaze me even more than the video itself is the viewers' reaction and the attention that the media had given it. Some viewers left extreme comment such as "those marines should be kill" and "they should be thrown off the cliff along with the puppy." I personally think those comments are a little harsh because even if the puppy was alive and even if their action was inhumane and cruel, do these marines really deserve death sentence? How come there are anti-death penalty movement for murderer and violent crime convicts but none really stand up for these guys? The viewers don't realize that by condemning these marines and saying that they deserve death, they are being just as cruel as those whom they are criticizing. It also seem ridiculous how some people posted the marine's address and phone number on the internet and harassed his family. .There were reports that the family has received threatening phone calls to the point that they have to disconnect their phone and require protection from police. It doesn't make any sense to me how people can put others life in danger because of a puppy. In addition, the special attention that the media had given this video also seem ridiculous to me. Where are the outrages over thousand of people who was killed during the war, people who was brutally murder, women and kids who had been abuse? As I have said before I'm not trying to justify the marine's action. I just think the public's reaction to this issue is a little exaggerated.

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susys

I feel that the fact that his family is being harassed to such an extreme is ridiculous. And I feel that fact that a marine is doing this should not be the main focus of the media attention. Why does the media not focus on the large number soldier deaths, why do they not condemn Bush for this. I feel it is unjust to say someone should die because of this. The media is so twisted.

    Reply#1 - Fri Mar 7, 2008 4:08 PM EST
    Angela Lagano

    Dang. I haven't seen this video, nor do I really want to. The media takes things such as this and twists it around and makes it seem as if a population of people are doing this (the population being the marines) and then condemn them. Was it right to make the video? No. Was it right to post the address of the maker? No. Is it right to condemn them because of a stupid video? No. No one really is right in this situation. Best advice I can give them? Take the video off the internet, and focus on more important things in life, and not some video on the internet that probably isn't real.

      Reply#2 - Fri Mar 7, 2008 10:01 PM EST
      Anna_K4

      Exactly! I also think that no one is right in this situation, especially the people who created the video and posted it online in the first place. However, I do think that condemning the whole marines just because of the action of an individual is absurd because there are marines that risk their life for us and there are some that even took animals from Iraq when them come home and raise it.

        #2.1 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:33 PM EST
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        najakitty

        This situation is extremely unfortunate that it ever began. The people who are upset are the pet owners and animal lovers. What is worse are the threats being made to the family and the bad publicity for the already poor military reputation. The soldiers who did this were wrong… wrong in making it (whether real or not) and wrong in posting it. They were trying to get a reaction and they did. It was a bad move on their part and nothing can really be done.

          Reply#3 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:08 AM EST
          Martin Westenfelder

          A large part of the outrage is not about the dog only.

          Its about the message of indifference to suffering and the sanctity of life that it transmits.

          Throw a dog off a cliff today.

          Blast the brain out of a baby tomorrow.

          Its a message of a sadistic baseline attitude. And therefore this video is dead serious. Soldiers who rejoice from killing innocent beings are more dangerous to a war effort than anything else.

          • 3 votes
          #3.1 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 9:19 AM EST
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          Pilcher01

          I agree with Martin. The issue here is not a puppy, it is the apparent disregard for life in general that is being portrayed by this man. Here is a man that we entrust with weapons and the authority to kill in a war situation. Whether you like dogs or not, it is the disregard for life in general that I have a problem with. I wouldn't want this man to fight on my behalf.

          • 2 votes
          Reply#4 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 12:59 PM EST
          matthewperlegis

          A great article outlining contradictions in not only the thought process of the people leaving these comments, but of the priorities of the American people. If indeed the puppy was real, the action by the marines would never be justified. If the video is fake, then perhaps some counseling would do the marines some good. Unfortunately, in Iraq, the death of a puppy seems pale in comparison to the countless lives being lost, both by civilians and soldiers. I would hope that the life of every human being in Iraq would garner more respect than that shown in the video, and a loss would not be taken lightly. The lives of animals should not be taken lightly, or ill treated either. I would hope that anyone in a position to take a human life, who must sometimes do so in self defense, would not do it lightly, or out of pleasure. Unfortunately in war, the loss of life is inevitable. But that does not mean that any loss under any circumstance should be tolerated, regardless of circumstance of conflict.

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          Reply#5 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:42 PM EST
          LaughKid

          In every society there is an element of which that is abnormal and perverse. This Marine is not indicative of the brave men and women that persevere in the face of battle to afford us the luxuries of open dialogue and discussion. I'm sure on a percentage basis, the type of twisted freak that is seen in the video is no greater than that of any population of the same size. Consider a random group of 138,000 people in the Tampa Bay area. How many of those show up on your nightly news?

            Reply#6 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:57 PM EST
            Morgan Lunsford

            If this video, which I have recently seen on break.com, is real it's the sickest thing I've ever seen. The problem with the digital age is that the saying "believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see" is true now more than ever. With the ability to manipulate digital images, the use of this form of propaganda will spread like the plague.

              Reply#7 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:26 PM EST
              adidas13scr

              I watched the video over and over and I cant tell if it is fake or real. I dont think it really matter if the puppy was dead or alive, that is still an inhumane thing to do and does not represent the United States in a good way at all. I think people have the right to get upset about it because it was put forth in front of there eyes, but I dont think it should be taken to extreme measures as threatening the marines and their families. If you think about it, the marine may have tortured that dog in a way, but threatening his family is considered harassmant or torture as well. I dont believe everything fully unless I see it myself. So until then, I guess this topic remains a mystery to me.

                Reply#8 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 5:29 PM EST
                javierf720-1

                i believe every action desevres a just punishment. If you end the life of anything with out proper justficatin i.e. food, protection.. and not humor then it's fine. These marines deserve to die even the idea of something like that is sick. The dog isn't wants important its the fatc that someone with this mentlay is a dangor to society and we need to protect are selves and in order to do that they need to die.

                  Reply#9 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 6:31 PM EST
                  Martin Westenfelder

                  javier

                  Those things ought not to be spoken out, not even in anger.

                  But, now as its done, I cordially invite you to rectify it, once you've calmed down.

                    #9.1 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 7:15 PM EST
                    najakitty

                    Out of anger or not, he has a right to say what he feels. He has nothing to rectify and cordially invite you to watch where you tread. I agree strong actions should be taken; the course of actions is your own. No one should judge you and say that you're wrong.

                      #9.2 - Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:09 AM EST
                      javierf720-1

                      i was not angry i'm just a a sriaght forwad guy. I can say what i want and believe we should kill those with the potential to kill us.

                        #9.3 - Sun Mar 9, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
                        Jack Huang

                        I can say what i want and believe we should kill those with the potential to kill us.

                        I would caution against using "potential to kill us." Or, perhaps simply specify that more. After all, each of your neighbors can potentially kill you by running you down with a car. That doesn't mean you should preemptively kill them.

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                        #9.4 - Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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                        amgrimes

                        I saw this video on the news and I was utterly disgusted!! The fact that someone could possibly do that to an innocent animal is sick. But I disagree completely with all the out lash against the marines. Just because one person did this, does not mean that the entire marine force should be looked down upon or crucified. Every day people from different organizations, occupations do sick and disgusting things, we must remember, it is the individual not the whole!

                          Reply#10 - Sat Mar 8, 2008 11:38 PM EST
                          arience

                          I would like to see someone toss the marine off the cliff. Did he feel the need to make this world more sad?

                            Reply#11 - Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:05 AM EDT
                            Sharon-329599

                            Let the punishment fit the crime. Get two burly guys to take Motari to a cliff and drop his sorry a** over the edge. I'm sick of stories of crazy people doing horrible things to animals for a thrill or revenge. what a BIG man you are...NOT Mr. EX-Marine

                              Reply#12 - Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:19 AM EDT
                              arience

                              In the womb, out of the womb, whats the difference? you can kill the child in the womb, thats ok, but once it hits the air and takes a lungful, it's murder. Is there some big secret out there that has to happen before these babies are considered human beings? what is wrong with people? such a low, low regard for life and apparently a low regard for yourselves. how sad.

                                Reply#13 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:06 PM EST
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